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Catherine Gillespie and Andre Hakes are a married lesbian couple who live in Charlottesville. In their interview, they discuss the process of adopting their child and their protracted fight for custody in the legal system. They were the first couple to get married in Charlottesville when it became legal in 2014, and their marriage followed years of activism around marriage that they describe. They also share their experiences of queer community in Charlottesville and discuss gender presentation and transgender issues today.